1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,510 [Music] 2 00:00:08,710 --> 00:00:06,950 there's a whole fleet of look on the 3 00:00:10,950 --> 00:00:08,720 assay 4 00:00:14,310 --> 00:00:10,960 oh my gosh they're all going against the 5 00:00:18,950 --> 00:00:16,390 it was basically a cube with inside of 6 00:00:22,810 --> 00:00:18,960 sphere where the points of the cube 7 00:00:33,010 --> 00:00:22,820 were touching outside of sphere 8 00:00:37,190 --> 00:00:34,560 [Music] 9 00:00:38,709 --> 00:00:37,200 [Applause] 10 00:00:40,950 --> 00:00:38,719 so this isn't anything that just is 11 00:00:49,990 --> 00:00:40,960 limited to the united states it's a 12 00:00:54,549 --> 00:00:52,389 hi everyone and welcome back to that ufo 13 00:00:56,630 --> 00:00:54,559 podcast my name is andy and we have a 14 00:00:58,950 --> 00:00:56,640 breakdown for you with some news updates 15 00:01:01,590 --> 00:00:58,960 a couple of reviews and anything else 16 00:01:03,750 --> 00:01:01,600 that may come up dan welcome back 17 00:01:04,869 --> 00:01:03,760 hi hi it's uh it's good to be here what 18 00:01:07,190 --> 00:01:04,879 a great week 19 00:01:09,910 --> 00:01:07,200 uh it has been a very good week and and 20 00:01:11,590 --> 00:01:09,920 i suppose just before we kick off with 21 00:01:13,670 --> 00:01:11,600 the celebrationy stuff a little bit of 22 00:01:15,910 --> 00:01:13,680 of news that came out social media wise 23 00:01:18,710 --> 00:01:15,920 in terms of the podcast just wanted to 24 00:01:21,030 --> 00:01:18,720 to mention in an audio form that's a 25 00:01:22,789 --> 00:01:21,040 really weird way of saying that isn't it 26 00:01:24,789 --> 00:01:22,799 tell people i'm going to mention it in 27 00:01:27,109 --> 00:01:24,799 an audio form that's really weird sorry 28 00:01:29,190 --> 00:01:27,119 everyone so um yes you might have seen a 29 00:01:31,830 --> 00:01:29,200 few days ago i mentioned on social media 30 00:01:34,550 --> 00:01:31,840 that on the feed you have for that ufo 31 00:01:36,710 --> 00:01:34,560 podcast you are going to see some other 32 00:01:39,590 --> 00:01:36,720 shows coming out not with my voice which 33 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:39,600 i'm very happy about um they won't be on 34 00:01:42,710 --> 00:01:41,360 any of the paid platforms these are 35 00:01:44,789 --> 00:01:42,720 going to be shows that go out onto the 36 00:01:47,109 --> 00:01:44,799 free feeds and it's just additional 37 00:01:50,469 --> 00:01:47,119 content the first one is priscilla 38 00:01:52,389 --> 00:01:50,479 stones quantum witch cafe priscilla digs 39 00:01:53,910 --> 00:01:52,399 into some areas that we get asked to 40 00:01:56,310 --> 00:01:53,920 talk about sometimes on the podcast 41 00:01:58,630 --> 00:01:56,320 don't madan that we we tend just not to 42 00:01:59,590 --> 00:01:58,640 go into it because it's not our bag so 43 00:02:02,789 --> 00:01:59,600 to speak 44 00:02:05,109 --> 00:02:02,799 yeah yeah exactly uh there's 45 00:02:06,630 --> 00:02:05,119 there's a lot of areas where we don't 46 00:02:09,589 --> 00:02:06,640 have the depth of knowledge required to 47 00:02:11,510 --> 00:02:09,599 talk about something um and priscilla 48 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:11,520 you know covers a really good area 49 00:02:15,589 --> 00:02:13,360 though yeah the first one that we 50 00:02:17,510 --> 00:02:15,599 uploaded was her recent interview with a 51 00:02:19,270 --> 00:02:17,520 medium and that's not you know so i 52 00:02:21,589 --> 00:02:19,280 always think a medium large small you 53 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:21,599 know but medium ship and medium when it 54 00:02:25,670 --> 00:02:23,920 comes to spirituality and that's just 55 00:02:27,910 --> 00:02:25,680 not something we would normally discuss 56 00:02:29,910 --> 00:02:27,920 on the podcast however it's an area 57 00:02:32,790 --> 00:02:29,920 priscilla is comfortable with and she 58 00:02:35,110 --> 00:02:32,800 can relate to her guests with and 59 00:02:36,869 --> 00:02:35,120 that's that's why i i invited priscilla 60 00:02:38,550 --> 00:02:36,879 on to release her stuff she's got her 61 00:02:40,470 --> 00:02:38,560 own channel as well on youtube i 62 00:02:42,309 --> 00:02:40,480 encourage people to follow priscilla on 63 00:02:43,910 --> 00:02:42,319 social media as well 64 00:02:45,830 --> 00:02:43,920 you can find her dan if you could just 65 00:02:47,910 --> 00:02:45,840 find priscilla's socials for me again i 66 00:02:49,430 --> 00:02:47,920 think it's at quantum underscore which 67 00:02:51,270 --> 00:02:49,440 with our why but 68 00:02:53,190 --> 00:02:51,280 if you could check for me 69 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:53,200 but the idea is that you'll hear some 70 00:02:56,550 --> 00:02:54,959 content that isn't ours and it just 71 00:02:58,630 --> 00:02:56,560 means more content yeah dan's telling me 72 00:03:00,869 --> 00:02:58,640 it's at quantum underscore which and 73 00:03:02,949 --> 00:03:00,879 which is with a why and give priscilla a 74 00:03:04,790 --> 00:03:02,959 follow you can subscribe to our stuff on 75 00:03:06,470 --> 00:03:04,800 youtube as well and it's just some 76 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:06,480 additional content if it's not to your 77 00:03:10,390 --> 00:03:08,640 test our liking like not all of our 78 00:03:12,470 --> 00:03:10,400 interviews are for everyone there are 79 00:03:14,550 --> 00:03:12,480 people who you will skip and and whatnot 80 00:03:16,229 --> 00:03:14,560 i'm sure that then great but otherwise 81 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:16,239 it's some additional content for free 82 00:03:21,110 --> 00:03:19,120 for you on the feeds as well as that 83 00:03:22,869 --> 00:03:21,120 pretty soon in the next couple of weeks 84 00:03:24,869 --> 00:03:22,879 dave partridge and graham rendell 85 00:03:27,430 --> 00:03:24,879 colleagues and friends of ours from uap 86 00:03:29,350 --> 00:03:27,440 media are starting their own pod as well 87 00:03:31,750 --> 00:03:29,360 that will be released through that ufo 88 00:03:33,910 --> 00:03:31,760 podcast i suppose you can start to think 89 00:03:36,309 --> 00:03:33,920 of your that ufo podcast feed as a bit 90 00:03:37,910 --> 00:03:36,319 of a network so um i'm just kind of 91 00:03:40,070 --> 00:03:37,920 working on that with with the content 92 00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:40,080 still coming but if you've heard dave 93 00:03:44,470 --> 00:03:42,640 and graham speaking on our own shows or 94 00:03:48,070 --> 00:03:44,480 um if they've been on someone else's 95 00:03:49,430 --> 00:03:48,080 they have a phenomenal depth of of ufo 96 00:03:52,229 --> 00:03:49,440 knowledge uh when it comes to the 97 00:03:54,390 --> 00:03:52,239 history the cases the detail that they 98 00:03:56,550 --> 00:03:54,400 go into is just fascinating 99 00:03:58,710 --> 00:03:56,560 i could invite dan on and we could sit 100 00:04:00,710 --> 00:03:58,720 and say we're going to discuss the you 101 00:04:03,390 --> 00:04:00,720 know roswell or 102 00:04:06,789 --> 00:04:03,400 betty and barney hill case or you know 103 00:04:09,030 --> 00:04:06,799 1947 east german foo fighters 104 00:04:11,190 --> 00:04:09,040 appearances but we'd be struggling with 105 00:04:12,710 --> 00:04:11,200 it because it's not our thing again 106 00:04:15,030 --> 00:04:12,720 and as much as people like hearing us 107 00:04:16,870 --> 00:04:15,040 talk about stuff let the experts do it 108 00:04:18,710 --> 00:04:16,880 so you will hear dave and graham on 109 00:04:21,189 --> 00:04:18,720 their own podcast it'll be released 110 00:04:22,950 --> 00:04:21,199 through that ufo podcast feeds but they 111 00:04:24,870 --> 00:04:22,960 will be very much doing their own show 112 00:04:26,790 --> 00:04:24,880 and have their own guests involved as 113 00:04:28,230 --> 00:04:26,800 well and dan and i will be helping out i 114 00:04:29,830 --> 00:04:28,240 suppose with the production of that in 115 00:04:31,590 --> 00:04:29,840 the background to make sure it's the 116 00:04:33,990 --> 00:04:31,600 same quality that you come to expect 117 00:04:35,749 --> 00:04:34,000 from from our pods as well dania 118 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:35,759 yeah yeah absolutely 119 00:04:39,030 --> 00:04:37,120 and that includes stan doing some of the 120 00:04:41,030 --> 00:04:39,040 graphic design for the logos 121 00:04:43,189 --> 00:04:41,040 and uh we're going to that's implicit 122 00:04:44,790 --> 00:04:43,199 yeah yeah obviously yeah that's applied 123 00:04:46,950 --> 00:04:44,800 um and the same with priscilla's stuff 124 00:04:49,030 --> 00:04:46,960 as well just we'll put some logos and 125 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:49,040 some music on it as well folks 126 00:04:51,909 --> 00:04:50,000 and 127 00:04:53,350 --> 00:04:51,919 when i did announce those on socials we 128 00:04:55,270 --> 00:04:53,360 had a lot of great feedback which is 129 00:04:57,670 --> 00:04:55,280 appreciated dave and graham's will be 130 00:05:00,150 --> 00:04:57,680 starting in the new year and we'll get a 131 00:05:02,950 --> 00:05:00,160 um outward of frequency and scheduling 132 00:05:05,189 --> 00:05:02,960 but dan people did ask me oh is dan 133 00:05:06,150 --> 00:05:05,199 going to be doing a show as well 134 00:05:12,950 --> 00:05:06,160 no 135 00:05:15,510 --> 00:05:12,960 that dan will be doing his own pod 136 00:05:17,510 --> 00:05:15,520 nothing changes in terms of the that ufo 137 00:05:19,350 --> 00:05:17,520 podcast interviews the breakdowns the 138 00:05:20,469 --> 00:05:19,360 round tables whatever we do still 139 00:05:22,629 --> 00:05:20,479 carries on 140 00:05:24,629 --> 00:05:22,639 but you'll have additional content from 141 00:05:27,749 --> 00:05:24,639 creators with their own voices their own 142 00:05:29,430 --> 00:05:27,759 tones and their own areas of expertise 143 00:05:31,189 --> 00:05:29,440 dan do you want to say a little bit 144 00:05:34,629 --> 00:05:31,199 about what you're going to be doing as 145 00:05:37,670 --> 00:05:34,639 much as you can yeah sure so i'm kind of 146 00:05:39,749 --> 00:05:37,680 still exploring the the idea fully but 147 00:05:41,830 --> 00:05:39,759 i i said to andy before this podcast 148 00:05:45,350 --> 00:05:41,840 started that on a scale of andy to 149 00:05:46,710 --> 00:05:45,360 priscilla i existed about a five so my 150 00:05:48,150 --> 00:05:46,720 show is going to be kind of off the 151 00:05:50,070 --> 00:05:48,160 beaten path of what we usually talk 152 00:05:51,990 --> 00:05:50,080 about but kind of bridging the 153 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:52,000 conversation to the to the more woo 154 00:05:55,749 --> 00:05:53,520 things i'd say 155 00:05:58,150 --> 00:05:55,759 i think if i had to give an example 156 00:05:59,430 --> 00:05:58,160 when i spoke to dr andrew gallamore 157 00:06:01,590 --> 00:05:59,440 which if you haven't checked that out 158 00:06:05,110 --> 00:06:01,600 it's a really good uh conversation dan 159 00:06:06,469 --> 00:06:05,120 was part of it on psychedelics i can get 160 00:06:08,710 --> 00:06:06,479 into those conversations 161 00:06:09,909 --> 00:06:08,720 at a certain level i will speak about 162 00:06:11,430 --> 00:06:09,919 you know the 163 00:06:13,590 --> 00:06:11,440 uh the kind of base level and we'll 164 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:13,600 explore some topics but i don't have 165 00:06:18,309 --> 00:06:16,240 that really inbuilt ingrained knowledge 166 00:06:21,270 --> 00:06:18,319 like dave or graham does on the history 167 00:06:23,029 --> 00:06:21,280 of the subject to just dig deeper and i 168 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:23,039 think that's where dan comes into his 169 00:06:27,189 --> 00:06:25,360 own where he can really get into those 170 00:06:28,870 --> 00:06:27,199 subjects or guests and have those 171 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:28,880 conversations that will flow much more 172 00:06:33,590 --> 00:06:31,120 naturally than me attempting to do that 173 00:06:34,870 --> 00:06:33,600 kind of stuff as well so again i'm i'm 174 00:06:36,710 --> 00:06:34,880 really happy for dan to do that he's 175 00:06:38,950 --> 00:06:36,720 been on this podcast now what almost a 176 00:06:39,830 --> 00:06:38,960 year and a half and it's it's time to 177 00:06:41,590 --> 00:06:39,840 connect 178 00:06:43,590 --> 00:06:41,600 yeah i was going to say it's time to let 179 00:06:45,830 --> 00:06:43,600 the the birds out of the nest and 180 00:06:49,270 --> 00:06:45,840 i'm proud dad going go on create your 181 00:06:51,430 --> 00:06:49,280 own podcasts on um but again it's it for 182 00:06:52,550 --> 00:06:51,440 me i i've always from the start folks 183 00:06:54,309 --> 00:06:52,560 and i appreciate i've taken up five 184 00:06:55,670 --> 00:06:54,319 minutes of your time but had the idea 185 00:06:57,670 --> 00:06:55,680 that the podcast down the line could 186 00:06:59,990 --> 00:06:57,680 develop into a little bit of a network 187 00:07:01,830 --> 00:07:00,000 and it's additional content at a time 188 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:01,840 when there are a lot of people consuming 189 00:07:07,110 --> 00:07:04,400 a lot of content if you like it great if 190 00:07:09,270 --> 00:07:07,120 you don't thanks just skip it that would 191 00:07:11,029 --> 00:07:09,280 be the the suggestion but i would love 192 00:07:13,270 --> 00:07:11,039 people to support dan support dave and 193 00:07:15,430 --> 00:07:13,280 graham support priscilla and any of your 194 00:07:17,189 --> 00:07:15,440 own content creators or podcast 195 00:07:19,350 --> 00:07:17,199 youtubers bloggers whatever it might be 196 00:07:21,029 --> 00:07:19,360 that you listen to so that's all to come 197 00:07:23,029 --> 00:07:21,039 in the coming weeks and thank you to 198 00:07:24,550 --> 00:07:23,039 everyone who has been really supportive 199 00:07:26,870 --> 00:07:24,560 in the early days and we'll get more 200 00:07:30,230 --> 00:07:26,880 news out as it happens 201 00:07:32,710 --> 00:07:30,240 speaking of news dan big news this week 202 00:07:35,189 --> 00:07:32,720 was that the ndaa 203 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:35,199 passed through the u.s senate which we 204 00:07:39,270 --> 00:07:36,800 have all been keeping tabs on for some 205 00:07:41,749 --> 00:07:39,280 time now i'm going to clear up as i said 206 00:07:44,150 --> 00:07:41,759 to you before we hit record then i 207 00:07:46,150 --> 00:07:44,160 i can't personally say i am celebrating 208 00:07:47,909 --> 00:07:46,160 the defense act passing it doesn't 209 00:07:50,550 --> 00:07:47,919 really mean much of anything to me at 210 00:07:53,270 --> 00:07:50,560 all what i am very happy about and you 211 00:07:55,670 --> 00:07:53,280 could say celebrating is that one of 212 00:07:58,550 --> 00:07:55,680 many amendments that were made by a 213 00:08:00,309 --> 00:07:58,560 particular senator uh the the gillibrand 214 00:08:02,230 --> 00:08:00,319 amendment as it's known 215 00:08:04,150 --> 00:08:02,240 contained you know the the instruction 216 00:08:06,070 --> 00:08:04,160 of starting a ufo office that will be 217 00:08:08,309 --> 00:08:06,080 funded there will be a level of 218 00:08:09,589 --> 00:08:08,319 transparency we can expect and it's a 219 00:08:11,510 --> 00:08:09,599 really good thing for the topic and 220 00:08:13,670 --> 00:08:11,520 subject we know and love that's what i'm 221 00:08:16,150 --> 00:08:13,680 celebrating not necessarily that the 222 00:08:17,749 --> 00:08:16,160 defense act has passed because i suppose 223 00:08:18,950 --> 00:08:17,759 it doesn't really work terminology-wise 224 00:08:21,189 --> 00:08:18,960 that does it 225 00:08:23,110 --> 00:08:21,199 yeah and and there's 226 00:08:25,670 --> 00:08:23,120 no doubt some things in the ndaa that 227 00:08:27,189 --> 00:08:25,680 you we might disagree with as well so 228 00:08:29,430 --> 00:08:27,199 just i could support it when i hadn't 229 00:08:31,189 --> 00:08:29,440 read the whole thing yeah i i'll yeah 230 00:08:33,829 --> 00:08:31,199 full transparency we haven't read the 231 00:08:35,430 --> 00:08:33,839 full ndaa um it's just not what you 232 00:08:37,430 --> 00:08:35,440 would do as unless you've got a deep 233 00:08:41,310 --> 00:08:37,440 interest in that but there's that one 234 00:08:45,509 --> 00:08:41,320 very specific small piece 235 00:08:47,350 --> 00:08:45,519 1683. yeah everyone knows that yeah 236 00:08:48,630 --> 00:08:47,360 it's like um 237 00:08:50,710 --> 00:08:48,640 it's like having that kind of thousand 238 00:08:52,150 --> 00:08:50,720 piece jigsaw and there's one piece of 239 00:08:52,949 --> 00:08:52,160 the jigsaw that we really really really 240 00:08:54,470 --> 00:08:52,959 like 241 00:08:57,269 --> 00:08:54,480 that's that's what we care about not the 242 00:08:58,949 --> 00:08:57,279 other 999 pcs just that one bit and 243 00:09:02,870 --> 00:08:58,959 that's what's to be celebrated in terms 244 00:09:04,310 --> 00:09:02,880 of of ufos new aps um so dan you you've 245 00:09:05,670 --> 00:09:04,320 been kind of following this as it's gone 246 00:09:08,230 --> 00:09:05,680 through i like the little chart you've 247 00:09:10,070 --> 00:09:08,240 been posting online that shows you where 248 00:09:12,150 --> 00:09:10,080 it's at in terms of really easy to 249 00:09:13,350 --> 00:09:12,160 follow arrows yeah it's like it's like 250 00:09:15,430 --> 00:09:13,360 when you're watching your uber eats 251 00:09:16,230 --> 00:09:15,440 order and it tells you finally it's left 252 00:09:17,829 --> 00:09:16,240 you know 253 00:09:19,670 --> 00:09:17,839 your domino's pizza is now out for 254 00:09:21,829 --> 00:09:19,680 delivery that's what we've kind of got 255 00:09:23,269 --> 00:09:21,839 in terms of this kind of update so where 256 00:09:25,190 --> 00:09:23,279 where are we at now 257 00:09:29,269 --> 00:09:25,200 so it currently reads if you go on to 258 00:09:31,829 --> 00:09:29,279 the uh the s1605 page on congress.gov it 259 00:09:33,990 --> 00:09:31,839 currently reads resolving differences um 260 00:09:36,710 --> 00:09:34,000 it passed the house on the 7th of 261 00:09:39,509 --> 00:09:36,720 december um passed the senate on the 262 00:09:41,350 --> 00:09:39,519 15th um i think it was today or 263 00:09:42,870 --> 00:09:41,360 yesterday that the senate notified the 264 00:09:44,949 --> 00:09:42,880 house that you know that they passed 265 00:09:47,030 --> 00:09:44,959 that amendment so it can progress to 266 00:09:48,630 --> 00:09:47,040 resolving differences but 267 00:09:50,630 --> 00:09:48,640 the section that's revolt resolving 268 00:09:52,630 --> 00:09:50,640 differences is usually 269 00:09:54,310 --> 00:09:52,640 during the normal process of things 270 00:09:56,870 --> 00:09:54,320 where it goes house center resolved 271 00:09:58,230 --> 00:09:56,880 differences biden this time we had a 272 00:09:59,590 --> 00:09:58,240 kind of bit of a weird journey it went 273 00:10:01,670 --> 00:09:59,600 from the house to the senate then back 274 00:10:03,750 --> 00:10:01,680 again then through again so i i would 275 00:10:06,150 --> 00:10:03,760 expect that the resolving differences 276 00:10:08,150 --> 00:10:06,160 portion won't last that long 277 00:10:09,590 --> 00:10:08,160 um i can't see the uap language being 278 00:10:10,949 --> 00:10:09,600 affected there you know it's been pretty 279 00:10:12,550 --> 00:10:10,959 unanimous everyone's been very 280 00:10:14,069 --> 00:10:12,560 supportive no one's spoken out 281 00:10:15,509 --> 00:10:14,079 negatively about it 282 00:10:18,389 --> 00:10:15,519 um 283 00:10:20,630 --> 00:10:18,399 if if i were a better man i'd i'd say 284 00:10:22,470 --> 00:10:20,640 five pounds that we're gonna have a a 285 00:10:23,910 --> 00:10:22,480 nice surprise by by christmas and the 286 00:10:25,190 --> 00:10:23,920 biden will sign that in and we can 287 00:10:28,949 --> 00:10:25,200 celebrate a 288 00:10:30,069 --> 00:10:28,959 properly funded properly supported 289 00:10:32,069 --> 00:10:30,079 uh 290 00:10:33,990 --> 00:10:32,079 uap office that's going to last until 291 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:34,000 2026. 292 00:10:38,470 --> 00:10:36,000 i have seen people comment online then 293 00:10:40,949 --> 00:10:38,480 that they are disappointed at the lack 294 00:10:43,030 --> 00:10:40,959 of mainstream media coverage on 295 00:10:45,110 --> 00:10:43,040 on this going into action that we're 296 00:10:47,509 --> 00:10:45,120 going to get this ufo office but is that 297 00:10:48,949 --> 00:10:47,519 because it's it's such a small piece of 298 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:48,959 such a large act 299 00:10:53,430 --> 00:10:51,360 it's also not low yet until biden signs 300 00:10:54,870 --> 00:10:53,440 it in it could you know there's a small 301 00:10:56,630 --> 00:10:54,880 chance of it happening but biden could 302 00:10:58,870 --> 00:10:56,640 just say no 303 00:11:00,790 --> 00:10:58,880 and then it never goes through so 304 00:11:02,550 --> 00:11:00,800 celebrating now is it's a little bit 305 00:11:04,069 --> 00:11:02,560 premature i've said this before it it 306 00:11:06,630 --> 00:11:04,079 reminds me of that moment in end game 307 00:11:08,550 --> 00:11:06,640 when tony stark is asking you know is 308 00:11:09,910 --> 00:11:08,560 this the moment we win out of all the 309 00:11:11,269 --> 00:11:09,920 different timelines you saw it's doctor 310 00:11:13,190 --> 00:11:11,279 strange and doctor strange just puts up 311 00:11:14,470 --> 00:11:13,200 the finger like shh it's going well 312 00:11:16,790 --> 00:11:14,480 don't say anything 313 00:11:18,790 --> 00:11:16,800 um and that's about where we are now uh 314 00:11:21,990 --> 00:11:18,800 once biden signs it in crack the 315 00:11:24,470 --> 00:11:22,000 champagne but until then 316 00:11:25,910 --> 00:11:24,480 there's like a 0.01 chance that it'll be 317 00:11:27,670 --> 00:11:25,920 derailed 318 00:11:29,670 --> 00:11:27,680 awesome and yeah and look it's good news 319 00:11:31,430 --> 00:11:29,680 and i think what it means is that this 320 00:11:33,990 --> 00:11:31,440 this kind of part of the journey is 321 00:11:37,350 --> 00:11:34,000 almost over and there there may be a few 322 00:11:38,790 --> 00:11:37,360 months of of less news in terms of you 323 00:11:40,550 --> 00:11:38,800 know this going through and what may or 324 00:11:42,310 --> 00:11:40,560 may not be happening in the background 325 00:11:44,389 --> 00:11:42,320 but i think what it lets us get back to 326 00:11:45,910 --> 00:11:44,399 is that kind of speculating i mean for 327 00:11:47,190 --> 00:11:45,920 us we'll still be doing interviews and 328 00:11:49,110 --> 00:11:47,200 updates and everything else that may or 329 00:11:51,030 --> 00:11:49,120 may not go on in the background 330 00:11:53,350 --> 00:11:51,040 people like jeremy corbell have been 331 00:11:55,269 --> 00:11:53,360 quiet for a long time i 332 00:11:57,910 --> 00:11:55,279 would fully expect in the coming months 333 00:11:59,750 --> 00:11:57,920 maybe jeremy to to pop his head up and 334 00:12:02,150 --> 00:11:59,760 drop some some sort of video that's been 335 00:12:04,069 --> 00:12:02,160 leaked to him um which would be welcome 336 00:12:06,230 --> 00:12:04,079 regardless of what it was any kind of 337 00:12:08,310 --> 00:12:06,240 capture would be fantastic but 338 00:12:11,030 --> 00:12:08,320 i i think it's fair just in my opinion 339 00:12:13,190 --> 00:12:11,040 to say that maybe over the next couple 340 00:12:14,949 --> 00:12:13,200 of months in terms of leaks coming from 341 00:12:17,190 --> 00:12:14,959 within the dod the pentagon all that 342 00:12:19,829 --> 00:12:17,200 kind of stuff it might be pretty sparse 343 00:12:22,230 --> 00:12:19,839 in terms of anything coming out given it 344 00:12:24,389 --> 00:12:22,240 could really destabilize or or ruin the 345 00:12:26,230 --> 00:12:24,399 momentum of this office being set up in 346 00:12:27,590 --> 00:12:26,240 the background would that be fair yeah i 347 00:12:29,990 --> 00:12:27,600 think so you know they're going to need 348 00:12:31,269 --> 00:12:30,000 to do all the admin stuff and you know 349 00:12:33,509 --> 00:12:31,279 make sure there are computers in the 350 00:12:35,110 --> 00:12:33,519 office and making a payroll for everyone 351 00:12:36,710 --> 00:12:35,120 that works there is right and agree on 352 00:12:39,350 --> 00:12:36,720 the organizational structure and so on 353 00:12:40,949 --> 00:12:39,360 so forth that just takes work it takes a 354 00:12:43,269 --> 00:12:40,959 while so yeah i would agree there's 355 00:12:44,949 --> 00:12:43,279 probably going to be a a quiet spell uh 356 00:12:46,870 --> 00:12:44,959 where we can all kind of you know enjoy 357 00:12:49,750 --> 00:12:46,880 a glass of wine and pat ourselves on the 358 00:12:50,870 --> 00:12:49,760 back for a job well assisted um 359 00:12:52,389 --> 00:12:50,880 and then 360 00:12:55,590 --> 00:12:52,399 it'll be 361 00:12:57,910 --> 00:12:55,600 so when biden passes into law 362 00:12:59,509 --> 00:12:57,920 uh or i should say if not uh not to jinx 363 00:13:02,230 --> 00:12:59,519 it um 364 00:13:04,470 --> 00:13:02,240 it'll be a 90-day countdown until the 365 00:13:07,590 --> 00:13:04,480 first uh briefing to congress with a 366 00:13:09,110 --> 00:13:07,600 semi-annual report um the annual report 367 00:13:12,870 --> 00:13:09,120 comes basically the deadline is 368 00:13:14,870 --> 00:13:12,880 halloween 2022. uh so within 90 days we 369 00:13:16,470 --> 00:13:14,880 might see senators start talking about 370 00:13:18,629 --> 00:13:16,480 the kind of things that they're hearing 371 00:13:20,470 --> 00:13:18,639 especially if they're deciding to 372 00:13:22,790 --> 00:13:20,480 loosen up a bit and start having a 373 00:13:24,949 --> 00:13:22,800 conversation but we'll see it'll 374 00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:24,959 probably be something like tmz cornering 375 00:13:29,269 --> 00:13:27,760 someone and getting a a quote 376 00:13:31,430 --> 00:13:29,279 so maybe february march and do you think 377 00:13:33,430 --> 00:13:31,440 there's any chance at that point we have 378 00:13:35,430 --> 00:13:33,440 a leslie kane ralph blumenthal helen 379 00:13:37,030 --> 00:13:35,440 cooper peace in the new york times if 380 00:13:38,629 --> 00:13:37,040 they get wind of anything coming out is 381 00:13:40,949 --> 00:13:38,639 that is that what is their potential for 382 00:13:42,949 --> 00:13:40,959 that probably i i can't imagine the 383 00:13:45,750 --> 00:13:42,959 reporters that the big papers are 384 00:13:47,829 --> 00:13:45,760 sitting on there some waiting um you 385 00:13:49,590 --> 00:13:47,839 know i personally know a reporter that's 386 00:13:51,670 --> 00:13:49,600 waiting on it to be signed into law to 387 00:13:53,750 --> 00:13:51,680 kind of publish a celebratory piece no 388 00:13:55,829 --> 00:13:53,760 doubt you know places like the 389 00:13:57,829 --> 00:13:55,839 independent or new york times or 390 00:13:59,590 --> 00:13:57,839 washington post they probably have those 391 00:14:01,670 --> 00:13:59,600 pieces in the works right now waiting 392 00:14:03,269 --> 00:14:01,680 for the go button 393 00:14:05,189 --> 00:14:03,279 in the meantime there is plenty of 394 00:14:07,110 --> 00:14:05,199 content from a lot of different creators 395 00:14:08,949 --> 00:14:07,120 out there as well um i've not listened 396 00:14:11,269 --> 00:14:08,959 to this yet and i don't think dan has 397 00:14:13,030 --> 00:14:11,279 but ross kiltat who is has just been on 398 00:14:16,150 --> 00:14:13,040 the podcast last week and we got 399 00:14:17,990 --> 00:14:16,160 phenomenal feedback um we had 500 people 400 00:14:20,310 --> 00:14:18,000 in the youtube premiere which was 401 00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:20,320 amazing and yeah dan and i were trying 402 00:14:24,790 --> 00:14:22,480 to to monitor the chat and speak to 403 00:14:26,150 --> 00:14:24,800 everyone which was great um so that that 404 00:14:27,509 --> 00:14:26,160 was amazing thank you and if you've not 405 00:14:29,670 --> 00:14:27,519 checked it out go check it out it was 406 00:14:32,949 --> 00:14:29,680 ross coulthart returns and russ will be 407 00:14:34,150 --> 00:14:32,959 back on in the new year at some point um 408 00:14:37,430 --> 00:14:34,160 just to let you know that the next 409 00:14:38,230 --> 00:14:37,440 interview release is up now as we record 410 00:14:40,150 --> 00:14:38,240 this 411 00:14:42,550 --> 00:14:40,160 and it's dr michael p masters which was 412 00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:42,560 a fascinating subject or a talk on his 413 00:14:46,629 --> 00:14:45,040 book identified flying objects and his 414 00:14:49,350 --> 00:14:46,639 upcoming book which is going to be on 415 00:14:50,949 --> 00:14:49,360 extra temporal species so we talked 416 00:14:52,389 --> 00:14:50,959 about a whole load of subjects and 417 00:14:53,990 --> 00:14:52,399 hopefully i've done it some justice i 418 00:14:56,150 --> 00:14:54,000 would have loved dan to put on that as 419 00:14:57,829 --> 00:14:56,160 well who could have steered me a little 420 00:14:59,750 --> 00:14:57,839 bit on some of it but it was really good 421 00:15:01,430 --> 00:14:59,760 that i had dan's input on the the format 422 00:15:03,590 --> 00:15:01,440 of the interview anyway but that was a 423 00:15:05,829 --> 00:15:03,600 really interesting chat that goes out uh 424 00:15:07,509 --> 00:15:05,839 free on monday the 20th of december for 425 00:15:08,949 --> 00:15:07,519 everyone but otherwise if you want to 426 00:15:10,269 --> 00:15:08,959 listen to it early 427 00:15:13,189 --> 00:15:10,279 check out 428 00:15:15,030 --> 00:15:13,199 patreon.com.ufo podcast apple premium 429 00:15:16,949 --> 00:15:15,040 it'll be up on the youtube premium soon 430 00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:16,959 spotify premium if you search that ufo 431 00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:18,560 podcast premium i'm going to stop saying 432 00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:20,320 premium um 433 00:15:24,310 --> 00:15:22,800 and i've got a quick ask because this 434 00:15:26,470 --> 00:15:24,320 always happens at the end and i know a 435 00:15:28,710 --> 00:15:26,480 lot of people drop off by the end just 436 00:15:30,310 --> 00:15:28,720 before we get on to the the reviews then 437 00:15:31,990 --> 00:15:30,320 and then also could you mention the 438 00:15:34,470 --> 00:15:32,000 raffle in just a second 439 00:15:36,790 --> 00:15:34,480 if you haven't already i would greatly 440 00:15:39,189 --> 00:15:36,800 appreciate on any podcast platform you 441 00:15:40,629 --> 00:15:39,199 listen to if you could leave us a review 442 00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:40,639 obviously five stars would be much 443 00:15:44,550 --> 00:15:43,440 appreciated and if you can a comment as 444 00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:44,560 well 445 00:15:49,430 --> 00:15:47,040 any platform is greatly appreciated but 446 00:15:51,590 --> 00:15:49,440 particularly apple it makes a big big 447 00:15:52,870 --> 00:15:51,600 difference if you leave a 448 00:15:54,230 --> 00:15:52,880 review on apple it helps with the 449 00:15:56,150 --> 00:15:54,240 algorithm it helps with the chart 450 00:15:57,749 --> 00:15:56,160 positions and it would just be great if 451 00:15:59,430 --> 00:15:57,759 you haven't done that take a few seconds 452 00:16:02,710 --> 00:15:59,440 to do that for us and we'll consider it 453 00:16:04,949 --> 00:16:02,720 a christmas gift as well um dan speaking 454 00:16:06,870 --> 00:16:04,959 of christmas gifts there is one week 455 00:16:09,030 --> 00:16:06,880 left of the raffle isn't there there is 456 00:16:11,189 --> 00:16:09,040 yeah so we're currently running a raffle 457 00:16:12,870 --> 00:16:11,199 uh raising money for saint jude's 458 00:16:14,389 --> 00:16:12,880 children's research hospital and the 459 00:16:16,230 --> 00:16:14,399 humane society international the 460 00:16:18,790 --> 00:16:16,240 proceeds will be split 50 50 between 461 00:16:22,150 --> 00:16:18,800 them um we've got some great prizes 462 00:16:24,230 --> 00:16:22,160 raffle prizes include a truth poster um 463 00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:24,240 signed by lou elizondo we had that sound 464 00:16:29,110 --> 00:16:25,920 value when we met him in london which 465 00:16:30,870 --> 00:16:29,120 was amazingly cool of him um 466 00:16:33,269 --> 00:16:30,880 then that comes with a kind of match in 467 00:16:35,350 --> 00:16:33,279 nft uh that's basically an animated 468 00:16:36,949 --> 00:16:35,360 piece of art 469 00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:36,959 as well as that uh dave partridge of 470 00:16:41,430 --> 00:16:38,480 shadows of your mind magazine has 471 00:16:43,829 --> 00:16:41,440 donated a first edition of uh donald a 472 00:16:46,629 --> 00:16:43,839 major donald kehoe book uh which is a 473 00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:46,639 rare and amazing find um i've got a few 474 00:16:53,269 --> 00:16:49,120 more prizes to pour up as well jazz shaw 475 00:16:55,670 --> 00:16:53,279 donated a a a knitted alien autopsy 476 00:16:57,030 --> 00:16:55,680 which is just amazing and cute and 477 00:16:58,790 --> 00:16:57,040 everyone should check it out because 478 00:16:59,829 --> 00:16:58,800 it's one of two in existence and there's 479 00:17:02,310 --> 00:16:59,839 a lot of 480 00:17:05,750 --> 00:17:02,320 love and passion put into that 481 00:17:07,669 --> 00:17:05,760 so the it's a minimum 10 pounds entry um 482 00:17:09,669 --> 00:17:07,679 and you get 10 entries for that you will 483 00:17:11,990 --> 00:17:09,679 be entered into draws for all of the 484 00:17:14,230 --> 00:17:12,000 prizes so even if you don't win one you 485 00:17:17,429 --> 00:17:14,240 could win another one um and then as a 486 00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:17,439 kind of a bonus thing uh lou elizondo 487 00:17:20,230 --> 00:17:19,280 has said that he will 488 00:17:22,870 --> 00:17:20,240 call 489 00:17:25,590 --> 00:17:22,880 the person who donates the most or the 490 00:17:28,150 --> 00:17:25,600 highest amount um for a personal thank 491 00:17:29,590 --> 00:17:28,160 you call um andy likes to say it's the 492 00:17:31,430 --> 00:17:29,600 kind of thing money can't buy but in 493 00:17:33,669 --> 00:17:31,440 this case you can buy it so if you want 494 00:17:36,390 --> 00:17:33,679 to talk to lou go give a nice big 495 00:17:39,430 --> 00:17:36,400 donation to those organizations and uh 496 00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:42,029 you can find the raffle at 497 00:17:47,909 --> 00:17:45,760 go.rallyup.com forward slash truth 498 00:17:50,630 --> 00:17:47,919 awesome and it's a very good cause two 499 00:17:53,029 --> 00:17:50,640 very good causes very worthy causes um i 500 00:17:54,070 --> 00:17:53,039 had shared one just again we don't like 501 00:17:55,590 --> 00:17:54,080 to 502 00:17:57,430 --> 00:17:55,600 use the the twitter feeds for anything 503 00:17:58,789 --> 00:17:57,440 other than ufo stuff but just at this 504 00:18:01,029 --> 00:17:58,799 time of year it's nice to give a little 505 00:18:03,029 --> 00:18:01,039 something back if you can and i've just 506 00:18:05,590 --> 00:18:03,039 shared a local northeast charity in 507 00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:05,600 england who delete christmas presents to 508 00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:08,240 kids and they are really really low this 509 00:18:11,510 --> 00:18:10,240 year on on donations and the warehouse 510 00:18:14,230 --> 00:18:11,520 was like i've got a friend who 511 00:18:16,230 --> 00:18:14,240 volunteers there was really really empty 512 00:18:18,549 --> 00:18:16,240 um particularly for kids [\h__\h] a 513 00:18:21,190 --> 00:18:18,559 little older kids as well so um if 514 00:18:22,950 --> 00:18:21,200 anyone can check out the twitter page um 515 00:18:24,789 --> 00:18:22,960 but it's cash for kids northeast if you 516 00:18:26,789 --> 00:18:24,799 want to google it as well and if you can 517 00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:26,799 you can donate presents directly you can 518 00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:28,720 donate some cash if you want to i went 519 00:18:34,070 --> 00:18:31,840 to the local shop yesterday and spent um 520 00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:34,080 some money on loads of selection boxes 521 00:18:37,270 --> 00:18:35,840 and stuff for babies and and various 522 00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:37,280 different age groups and stuff as well 523 00:18:40,390 --> 00:18:38,880 so it's just nice if you can to give 524 00:18:41,830 --> 00:18:40,400 something back but it's a tough time of 525 00:18:43,830 --> 00:18:41,840 year for everyone so 526 00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:43,840 i appreciate that but listen the the 527 00:18:47,110 --> 00:18:45,600 second half of this we have been 528 00:18:49,590 --> 00:18:47,120 planning on doing this for a few weeks 529 00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:49,600 we want to discuss two documentaries 530 00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:51,760 that we recently watched and the first 531 00:18:56,950 --> 00:18:53,760 one being the observers 532 00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:56,960 and then on to multi-dimensional 533 00:19:00,870 --> 00:18:58,080 and we're just going to kind of share 534 00:19:03,270 --> 00:19:00,880 our thoughts on them we interviewed the 535 00:19:04,549 --> 00:19:03,280 executive producer and director of the 536 00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:04,559 observers 537 00:19:08,789 --> 00:19:06,320 recently and that was a really nice chat 538 00:19:11,750 --> 00:19:08,799 with those guys and the the reaction to 539 00:19:14,710 --> 00:19:11,760 be fair was pretty mixed on the 540 00:19:17,110 --> 00:19:14,720 observers um i have to be really honest 541 00:19:18,710 --> 00:19:17,120 it was probably on the negative side 542 00:19:20,470 --> 00:19:18,720 from what i saw 543 00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:20,480 looking at a lot of different reactions 544 00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:22,080 and that's i think that's only fair at 545 00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:23,520 this point it's been out a few weeks now 546 00:19:27,909 --> 00:19:25,520 as well um 547 00:19:28,789 --> 00:19:27,919 so the observers as produced by jimmy 548 00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:28,799 church 549 00:19:33,350 --> 00:19:31,600 surprise surprise it um 550 00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:33,360 i want to use the word stars very 551 00:19:38,950 --> 00:19:36,320 loosely but it has john greenwald jimmy 552 00:19:40,789 --> 00:19:38,960 church linda moulton howe richard dolan 553 00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:40,799 a very fleeting appearance by louis 554 00:19:45,669 --> 00:19:43,360 elizondo uh william henry whitley 555 00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:45,679 strieber jesse ventura and deborah 556 00:19:49,590 --> 00:19:47,600 jordan cobble i i may have missed off 557 00:19:50,789 --> 00:19:49,600 one or two other short appearances in 558 00:19:53,029 --> 00:19:50,799 there 559 00:19:53,909 --> 00:19:53,039 so um 560 00:19:55,590 --> 00:19:53,919 dan 561 00:19:59,029 --> 00:19:55,600 this uh 562 00:20:02,549 --> 00:19:59,039 documentary it starts highlighting and 563 00:20:04,149 --> 00:20:02,559 recapping the 2017 story it's got uh lou 564 00:20:06,789 --> 00:20:04,159 on the scene the media picking up the 565 00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:06,799 story from new york times 566 00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:09,120 and 567 00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:11,120 what can we say 568 00:20:14,710 --> 00:20:13,760 then then the train falls off the tracks 569 00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:14,720 oh yeah 570 00:20:18,310 --> 00:20:16,480 to me it was 571 00:20:19,270 --> 00:20:18,320 it felt like a few different films in 572 00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:19,280 one 573 00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:21,520 yes you know i said that to you earlier 574 00:20:26,789 --> 00:20:24,080 than i i felt it was two documentaries 575 00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:26,799 there's the first half the second half 576 00:20:30,789 --> 00:20:28,480 and there's a couple of minutes in the 577 00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:30,799 middle where we jumped to jesse ventura 578 00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:32,400 talking about jfk 579 00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:33,840 so um 580 00:20:37,590 --> 00:20:35,919 we'll try not spoil loads here folks but 581 00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:37,600 it might have some spoilery stuff but 582 00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:39,520 actually there's not a whole lot to 583 00:20:45,909 --> 00:20:41,840 spoil because i don't feel this 584 00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:45,919 documentary gave you anything at all 585 00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:48,640 new it was it was a recap and i don't 586 00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:50,320 think it's anything that 587 00:20:55,510 --> 00:20:52,880 these people haven't done themselves or 588 00:20:55,850 --> 00:20:55,520 we haven't on our own platforms 589 00:20:57,190 --> 00:20:55,860 um 590 00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:57,200 [Music] 591 00:21:00,070 --> 00:20:58,000 yeah 592 00:21:01,590 --> 00:21:00,080 there was there was a point kind of i 593 00:21:03,909 --> 00:21:01,600 can't remember how far in with it but it 594 00:21:05,590 --> 00:21:03,919 was linda molten how and she was she was 595 00:21:06,630 --> 00:21:05,600 kind of sat on the stool with that cool 596 00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:06,640 background 597 00:21:11,190 --> 00:21:09,360 uh telling a story and her story was 598 00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:11,200 about her own book 599 00:21:15,669 --> 00:21:13,919 yeah and and it was at that point that i 600 00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:15,679 was like 601 00:21:20,310 --> 00:21:17,440 who i i don't understand who the phone 602 00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:20,320 was talking to because for newcomers 603 00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:23,120 it takes that conspiratorial tone that 604 00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:25,360 you know people their eyes glaze over 605 00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:26,720 and they just kind of walk away from 606 00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:28,960 those kind of things um 607 00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:31,200 but then for the experienced folk we've 608 00:21:36,390 --> 00:21:33,520 kind of heard all that before and we've 609 00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:36,400 seen it in in a lot of shows and 610 00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:38,320 things like that that 611 00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:40,080 it came out before 612 00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:43,200 you know the 2017 thing um 613 00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:45,280 i think the the beginning portion was a 614 00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:47,760 solid update but then it kind of becomes 615 00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:49,360 a blur 616 00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:51,600 dan i've always said on the pod i pride 617 00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:54,400 myself on if i'm doing an interview with 618 00:21:57,830 --> 00:21:56,400 someone who is doing a media run or a 619 00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:57,840 media round 620 00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:59,760 that it won't be the same as you hear on 621 00:22:02,950 --> 00:22:01,280 everyone else's podcast it'll be 622 00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:02,960 different questions i'll i'll make sure 623 00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:04,480 i deep dive into things that people have 624 00:22:09,029 --> 00:22:06,640 missed off as best i can 625 00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:09,039 and i think that if you're a documentary 626 00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:11,200 maker you've got to look at your piece 627 00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:12,799 and think 628 00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:14,080 what am i going to add to this 629 00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:15,760 conversation if people watch this what 630 00:22:18,390 --> 00:22:17,520 are they going to get 631 00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:18,400 and 632 00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:20,240 for me 633 00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:22,000 there's nothing here that if you watch 634 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:25,200 the phenomenon that you're going to add 635 00:22:28,549 --> 00:22:27,360 we mentioned that first half being about 636 00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:28,559 the last 637 00:22:31,110 --> 00:22:28,960 um 638 00:22:33,190 --> 00:22:31,120 [Music] 639 00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:33,200 being the last kind of four years 640 00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:35,200 linda moulton howe has done a lot in 641 00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:36,960 this subject 642 00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:38,480 but what's been linda moulton how's 643 00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:41,039 involvement in the last four years 644 00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:43,280 what has been her place 645 00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:46,480 she she sold some material to tom 646 00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:49,120 that's that's i think 647 00:22:52,950 --> 00:22:50,720 i think that's the only 648 00:22:55,909 --> 00:22:52,960 part of the narrative that's touched uh 649 00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:55,919 from from linda in in the past few years 650 00:22:59,510 --> 00:22:57,120 yeah 651 00:23:01,909 --> 00:22:59,520 and it's one of those things where 652 00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:01,919 john greenwald who 653 00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:04,720 has has a phenomenal black vault site 654 00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:06,640 and does some great work when it comes 655 00:23:10,149 --> 00:23:08,480 to foia but 656 00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:10,159 gets himself involved in a ufo 657 00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:13,200 documentary when 658 00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:15,280 i don't i i don't know if he's the best 659 00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:16,480 name for something like this he just 660 00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,720 seems to be a name attached 661 00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:20,320 through through jimmy church no doubt as 662 00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:21,360 well but 663 00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:23,039 he's someone who 664 00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:25,360 constantly online likes to 665 00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:26,960 to start the pot like stephen 666 00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:29,280 greenstreet who i've interviewed and i i 667 00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:31,440 like steven but again his opinions he 668 00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:32,799 goes back and forward and almost seems 669 00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:35,039 to enjoy trolling and very much won't 670 00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:36,799 engage in people who don't like their 671 00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:39,600 narrative or conversation and again john 672 00:23:42,970 --> 00:23:41,520 greenwald being a part of that 673 00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:42,980 i i don't know um 674 00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:44,240 [Music] 675 00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:46,080 it was just i think it was disappointing 676 00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:48,640 it was well produced it looked nice 677 00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:51,520 um but the music that played through the 678 00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:54,080 entire thing and this is something that 679 00:23:59,190 --> 00:23:56,480 quite a few people pointed out the music 680 00:24:02,149 --> 00:23:59,200 starts right at the beginning and 681 00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:02,159 literally does not stop it plays for the 682 00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:05,360 full piece and it's really jarring that 683 00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:07,760 there just seems to be this ambient 684 00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:09,679 music that just plays for an hour and 20 685 00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:12,320 minutes yeah it kind of has this effect 686 00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:13,600 of 687 00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:14,640 you know when you're watching something 688 00:24:18,149 --> 00:24:16,080 you lose interest and then it pulls you 689 00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:18,159 back in for a second when it was pulling 690 00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:20,400 me back in it felt like i was watching a 691 00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:22,320 trailer of a documentary as opposed to 692 00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:23,600 actually watching the documentary 693 00:24:27,269 --> 00:24:24,960 because it was just pasted with this 694 00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:27,279 dramatic music um 695 00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:31,360 and and just stories as well you know uh 696 00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:34,320 i i feel like we're past that point now 697 00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:36,240 yeah the linda mountain house stuff like 698 00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:37,919 she she mentions early on there's an 699 00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:40,000 internal war over the question of who 700 00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:42,960 and when as to who gets to tell the 701 00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:45,039 the world that we're not alone or the 702 00:24:49,269 --> 00:24:47,600 usa but there's no evidence of that she 703 00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:49,279 doesn't go into any detail it's just 704 00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:51,520 it's just mentioned um there's then a 705 00:24:55,029 --> 00:24:53,440 lot of assumed conjecture from from 706 00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:55,039 linda that the us government would come 707 00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:56,799 out and apologize and move forward with 708 00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:58,240 admissions 709 00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:00,720 again there's nothing to back that up 710 00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:02,559 it's just it just seems to be sound 711 00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:04,080 bites and snippets being thrown out 712 00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:04,880 there 713 00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:05,760 um 714 00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:07,200 with with little to back up in the 715 00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:09,840 background and for me i'll go back to it 716 00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:11,200 you look at the documentary the 717 00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:12,480 phenomenon 718 00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:14,480 this this documentary didn't have to be 719 00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:18,159 made uh and it really falls for me flat 720 00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:19,520 in that respect 721 00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:20,480 um 722 00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:22,480 the talk about the uap task force build 723 00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:24,799 up and as we heard at the time how can a 724 00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:27,039 180-day countdown be enough to prepare 725 00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:28,559 for any announcement 726 00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:30,640 and it needs to be that global effort i 727 00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:32,400 think for for that to have happened 728 00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:33,360 anyway 729 00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:34,720 um 730 00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:36,960 richard dolan he he said on it the 731 00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:39,120 language of the task force report seemed 732 00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:41,039 to indicate that it was aimed at playing 733 00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:44,400 down this whole angle said that um 734 00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:45,840 it was a national security attack 735 00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:51,669 i think there was a lot of 736 00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:53,760 just just sound bites people were thrown 737 00:25:57,029 --> 00:25:55,600 out um and i don't know if that was 738 00:25:59,430 --> 00:25:57,039 within the editing 739 00:26:01,110 --> 00:25:59,440 but probably like with some of these 740 00:26:02,870 --> 00:26:01,120 things you know i watch a lot of rich's 741 00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:02,880 content and 742 00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:04,960 he he has spoken before about how you'll 743 00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:06,960 get invited in and they'll just talk to 744 00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:08,640 you about stuff and then they just chop 745 00:26:13,510 --> 00:26:12,240 it up like crazy um and you just end up 746 00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:13,520 you know something that you maybe said 747 00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:15,840 as a joke becomes a main point during a 748 00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:18,000 conversation um or they'll put you 749 00:26:22,149 --> 00:26:19,679 they'll juxtapose you with someone else 750 00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:22,159 you know um and it just it changes the 751 00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:24,159 meaning of what you're saying so yeah i 752 00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:25,360 would put that down to the editing 753 00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:26,559 probably 754 00:26:31,269 --> 00:26:29,039 yeah so again it managed to get some big 755 00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:31,279 names attached um louis elizondo is 756 00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:33,120 advertised as being a part of this 757 00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:35,919 that's generous lou appears for what a 758 00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:37,039 minute 759 00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:39,840 and this is purely just my opinion 760 00:26:44,310 --> 00:26:42,880 it felt to me like lou wasn't going to 761 00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:44,320 be a part of this 762 00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:45,840 and 763 00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:47,760 i'm going to guess just because of 764 00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:49,600 recent you know interviews and stuff 765 00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:51,440 he's done for him jimmy church has 766 00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:53,039 managed to twist load his arm for an 767 00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:54,080 appearance 768 00:26:56,870 --> 00:26:55,520 and lose 769 00:26:59,190 --> 00:26:56,880 done a bit 770 00:27:00,789 --> 00:26:59,200 says nothing he's not said before um 771 00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:00,799 speaks very well 772 00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:02,320 and it's enough that they can attach his 773 00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:04,960 name to to sell this documentary 774 00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:07,200 um because he's literally there and he's 775 00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:08,480 gone 776 00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:09,520 so 777 00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:12,400 that for me is a little bit sneaky 778 00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:13,919 and 779 00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:17,679 imagine they tried to get others no 780 00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:19,919 doubt they approached a chris mellon i 781 00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:21,120 turned along 782 00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:23,120 you know a help of 783 00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:25,279 eric davis whoever they may have been 784 00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:27,039 and what they managed to get was 785 00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:29,440 essentially just their usual names dolan 786 00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:31,600 linda multnow greenwald's managed to get 787 00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:33,600 himself in a few documentaries 788 00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:36,240 and and they unfortunately and i mean 789 00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:38,000 that sincerely i don't want this to be 790 00:27:41,909 --> 00:27:40,080 poor they don't add anything to the 791 00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:41,919 conversation here 792 00:27:45,669 --> 00:27:43,840 yeah i i'd agree with that it's not 793 00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:45,679 something that i could go out of my way 794 00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:47,760 to recommend um i don't necessarily 795 00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:49,520 curse the time i spent watching it uh 796 00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:51,039 just just because you know everything's 797 00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:54,399 informative um but it was more like the 798 00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:56,320 ufo documentaries of yesteryear that we 799 00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:58,320 kind of moved past i thought 800 00:28:02,710 --> 00:28:00,399 yeah um 801 00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:02,720 for me it takes a change in the middle 802 00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:04,080 it was like they didn't have enough for 803 00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:06,080 one documentary so they they made two 804 00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:08,240 and put it together uh jesse ventura 805 00:28:13,269 --> 00:28:10,960 pops in i i love hearing jesse ventura 806 00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:13,279 talk wrestling um giving him a wrestling 807 00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:15,520 fan and especially the old old wrestling 808 00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:16,399 um 809 00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:18,720 but he he for a long long time has moved 810 00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:20,559 into conspiracy theories he's had his 811 00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:22,880 own show on it it's all very well 812 00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:24,640 mapped out jesse ventura's thoughts on 813 00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:26,640 various different things 814 00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:28,640 does jessie ventura help 815 00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:30,640 with his type of character 816 00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:33,679 spread the the message of uap ufos and 817 00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:35,600 what in 2021 818 00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:38,240 probably not jesse ventura's time for 819 00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:40,480 for the subject was very much in the 820 00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:41,760 late 90s and that's where it should have 821 00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:42,640 stayed 822 00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:43,679 um 823 00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:49,440 jfk conspiracy and then all of a sudden 824 00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:51,919 we're out of that and we get into a 825 00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:53,919 strange episode of ancient aliens almost 826 00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:56,480 tagged on to the end um 827 00:29:01,110 --> 00:28:59,039 it then gets to whitley strieber talking 828 00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:01,120 about abductions the volume of physical 829 00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:03,679 evidence uh they touch on implants that 830 00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:05,840 are removed from abductees interesting 831 00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:07,440 stuff but it's just totally different to 832 00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:09,200 what you've been watching already 833 00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:10,080 and 834 00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:14,799 uh deborah jordan cobble sharing a 835 00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:17,279 rather harrowing story about an alleged 836 00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:18,960 and i'm saying alleged 837 00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:20,880 alleged experiences 838 00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:23,760 and potential impregnations and removal 839 00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:26,399 of a hybrid baby and 840 00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:28,559 there's zero evidence for for this 841 00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:31,200 happening but again i i like i've said 842 00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:33,039 before when i've spoken to experiencers 843 00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:36,480 it's their story okay but for me 844 00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:38,399 it's just hard telling you that this 845 00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:41,600 happened so you have to believe me and i 846 00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:44,080 don't see what place it had on 847 00:29:49,110 --> 00:29:46,399 on this documentary am i being unfair 848 00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:49,120 then no i don't think so it's like i 849 00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:51,279 said that it usually has to be a reason 850 00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:53,200 you know who are you trying to convince 851 00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:55,440 and and i just don't think they put up 852 00:29:59,350 --> 00:29:57,200 much of a fight to convince anyone of 853 00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:59,360 anything it just felt like 854 00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:01,440 here's another documentary with the 855 00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:08,789 that happened i guess you know i i've 856 00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:10,399 got a note down here dan that linda 857 00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:12,559 molten how then goes full star wars 858 00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:14,399 triple threat 859 00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:16,640 it's blondes versus greys versus 860 00:30:20,549 --> 00:30:18,240 reptilians 861 00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:20,559 and again that for me it just goes back 862 00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:21,279 to 863 00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:24,480 mentioning her book and plugging her 864 00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:26,640 material and 865 00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:28,799 what she does in terms of the content 866 00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:30,960 she produces which i've listened to some 867 00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:33,039 of it myself like i've said before i 868 00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:35,039 quite enjoy hearing some of the stories 869 00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:36,960 that may or may not be true 870 00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:39,200 about you know alleged antarctic bases 871 00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:40,559 and and all that kind of stuff but it 872 00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:42,720 tends to be linda talking 873 00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,080 you know second hand about someone 874 00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:46,320 else's experience um 875 00:30:48,830 --> 00:30:47,600 that for me it just goes into the 876 00:30:51,990 --> 00:30:48,840 territory 877 00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:52,000 of very little evidence if any on what 878 00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:53,679 may or may not be happening and goes 879 00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:56,240 into the the realm of interesting story 880 00:30:59,190 --> 00:30:57,919 but 881 00:31:01,269 --> 00:30:59,200 just totally changed the tone of the 882 00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:01,279 whole documentary i've got to say 883 00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:02,720 overall for me 884 00:31:07,509 --> 00:31:05,600 it's one that if it was free and it's on 885 00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:07,519 amazon prime on netflix i would have 886 00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:10,240 watched it and went meh and not watch it 887 00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:11,360 again 888 00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:13,440 if i had paid for it i would have been 889 00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:15,519 extremely disappointed 890 00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:16,640 um 891 00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:18,000 that's not to say that maybe a couple of 892 00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:19,440 pounds of dollars wouldn't have went a 893 00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:20,799 mess to support the people who make 894 00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:22,799 these things because clearly a lot of 895 00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:25,120 work and effort has gone into it 896 00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:27,039 i just wonder the people involved i 897 00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:29,440 don't feel they put as much effort into 898 00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:30,480 this as 899 00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:32,399 as they might do on their own channels 900 00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:33,679 or streams now 901 00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:35,840 yeah they're very much business as usual 902 00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:38,320 i'd say 903 00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:39,840 yeah and you know what maybe that's the 904 00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:40,960 point that 905 00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:44,320 with ufo documentaries do we see 906 00:31:49,029 --> 00:31:46,640 far less of them these days because 907 00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:49,039 people have their own channels like 908 00:31:53,509 --> 00:31:50,880 rich stolen linda molten how john 909 00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:53,519 greenwald all have their own their own 910 00:31:57,029 --> 00:31:55,279 mediums to 911 00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:57,039 to release 912 00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:59,279 podcasts documentaries 913 00:32:02,389 --> 00:32:00,960 youtube updates 914 00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:02,399 then and then you don't have to wait 915 00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:03,840 three or four months and spend all that 916 00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:06,000 extra time to go into it and you can 917 00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:08,080 support your content creators like like 918 00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:09,919 ourselves and anyone through various 919 00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:11,200 different means 920 00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:13,120 so 921 00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:14,559 is it more difficult for one of these to 922 00:32:17,909 --> 00:32:16,320 get made and actually be 923 00:32:20,070 --> 00:32:17,919 be of any use maybe 924 00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:20,080 the phenomenon by james fox 925 00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:22,000 gets less praise and it deserves in that 926 00:32:24,789 --> 00:32:23,519 respect that he managed to make 927 00:32:26,389 --> 00:32:24,799 something 928 00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:26,399 so fantastic and actually move the 929 00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:28,399 conversation forward that it became 930 00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:30,640 it became the linchpin for that's what 931 00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:32,399 that's the standard better 932 00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:34,399 what documentary the phenomenon by james 933 00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:36,640 fox go watch that 934 00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:37,679 yeah 100 935 00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:39,120 the phenomenon is super easy to 936 00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:41,039 recommend because it's a it's a great 937 00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:42,960 primer for people that don't know this 938 00:32:47,669 --> 00:32:45,760 subject um you know it leaves you with a 939 00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:47,679 lot of questions but it gives you a lot 940 00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:49,600 to hold on to you know no one's coming 941 00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:51,360 away from that going there's no proof of 942 00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:53,200 this they're coming away going oh wow 943 00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:54,799 there's a lot more proof than i thought 944 00:32:59,669 --> 00:32:56,880 there was of this james put that 945 00:33:02,310 --> 00:32:59,679 together in a really incredible way and 946 00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:02,320 made it look like he'd had a lot of 947 00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:04,799 money to do it um which is why i guess 948 00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:06,640 it took him so long right 949 00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:09,519 yeah um so that's the observers like i 950 00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:10,880 said our honest opinion if you've 951 00:33:13,509 --> 00:33:12,399 watched it share your opinion with us 952 00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:13,519 what you think 953 00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:15,760 a lot of the 954 00:33:18,789 --> 00:33:16,960 the comments 955 00:33:21,509 --> 00:33:18,799 we are airing on the negative side that 956 00:33:23,909 --> 00:33:21,519 we we saw online but i appreciated the 957 00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:23,919 speaking to the director the exec 958 00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:26,799 producer and having that opportunity 959 00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:28,000 and again if they're going to stay 960 00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:30,240 involved in making more hopefully down 961 00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:31,760 the line it's it's just got a bit more 962 00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:33,279 meaty content to 963 00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:34,960 our opinion that makes you get think 964 00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:36,320 there was nothing in here that i think 965 00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:38,399 would make you stop think change your 966 00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:41,039 opinion or or anything otherwise 967 00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:41,840 um 968 00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:44,000 moving on there was another one dan i'll 969 00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:46,000 share the funny story as to what 970 00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:48,720 happened with me watching so i was sent 971 00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:50,880 the observer's screener 972 00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:53,600 very luckily early on to review 973 00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:57,519 and i was also sent multi-dimensional 974 00:34:02,070 --> 00:34:00,399 i didn't realize until i was 40 minutes 975 00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:02,080 into multi-dimensional that it wasn't 976 00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:03,279 the observers 977 00:34:07,509 --> 00:34:04,640 because i didn't realize they were 978 00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:07,519 sending me two separate documentaries 979 00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:10,320 um i must have missed the opening and i 980 00:34:13,990 --> 00:34:12,560 was really confused as to why it had 981 00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:14,000 just been 982 00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:16,159 peter maxwell slattery mary rodwell 983 00:34:20,069 --> 00:34:18,320 jason gleaves and a few others and i was 984 00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:20,079 like where's jimmy church and lou and 985 00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:22,320 dolan and linda molten how and 986 00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:24,800 the production value isn't as much as 987 00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:26,720 the observers has either and then i 988 00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:28,560 realized oh wait a minute and i checked 989 00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:30,240 my emails and it was a totally different 990 00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:32,480 documentary so i i kind of watched half 991 00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:35,599 of this by mistake but i still i still 992 00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:37,599 took notes um 993 00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:39,599 it's not got the same production values 994 00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:41,919 as the observers multi-dimensional 995 00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:44,159 focuses very much on the 996 00:34:49,109 --> 00:34:46,639 story of peter maxwell slattery 997 00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:49,119 well-known australian 998 00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:52,800 ufologist ce5 expert he's an experiencer 999 00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:54,240 really and 1000 00:34:59,349 --> 00:34:56,800 he shares his story um about his his 1001 00:35:01,750 --> 00:34:59,359 lifelong experiences with 1002 00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:01,760 alien entities and 1003 00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:04,240 peter maxwell slattery talks really well 1004 00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:05,520 he's done one i'd love to speak to on 1005 00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:07,920 the podcast i've been speaking to him 1006 00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:10,800 briefly about coming on um 1007 00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:13,359 but for me it's very much 1008 00:35:18,230 --> 00:35:14,880 and again it's not to use the word in 1009 00:35:21,829 --> 00:35:18,240 the negative the the woo of the subject 1010 00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:21,839 the the conversation is about telepathy 1011 00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:23,760 there's a lot of footage of of lights 1012 00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:26,240 moving across the sky 1013 00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:28,240 it it looks like chris bledsoe's 1014 00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:29,520 facebook feed 1015 00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:32,320 in a documentary form 1016 00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:34,320 and that's not to be derogatory but you 1017 00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:36,240 can't really see much other than a light 1018 00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:37,839 moving across the sky and you're told 1019 00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:40,240 it's a craft you're told it's an orb 1020 00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:42,320 okay 1021 00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:44,240 but i i can't see that from the camera 1022 00:35:47,990 --> 00:35:45,839 footage that we've got 1023 00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:48,000 yeah we we almost need like little case 1024 00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:50,000 studies of these things you know i 1025 00:35:53,829 --> 00:35:51,520 people seem to 1026 00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:53,839 or in my experience at least when 1027 00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:55,920 you know i'll always ask the basic 1028 00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:58,240 questions not because i doubt someone's 1029 00:36:01,030 --> 00:35:59,680 story straight away but because i just 1030 00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:01,040 want to see that they're doing their due 1031 00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:03,200 diligence you know if someone shows me a 1032 00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:05,760 lie in the sky and says that's a ufo 1033 00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:07,359 and i ask them did you check the planes 1034 00:36:11,910 --> 00:36:09,440 in the area and they go uh no i didn't 1035 00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:11,920 have to i know what it is then you can 1036 00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:13,200 take it with a pinch of salt right 1037 00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:14,800 whereas if someone has some details and 1038 00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:16,160 they're like no i checked it look there 1039 00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:18,480 was nothing there it it just moves it up 1040 00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:21,440 in the credibility a bit for me um 1041 00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:22,880 so i think they it would have gone a 1042 00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:25,280 long way here to just have those kinds 1043 00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:27,680 of things um you know narcat provides an 1044 00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:29,760 excellent uh template for kind of 1045 00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:32,400 following in investigating these ufo 1046 00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:35,040 claims in that way uh so people should 1047 00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:36,480 be following it 1048 00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,920 sometimes i think what you need and what 1049 00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:39,440 i would have liked to have seen in both 1050 00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:41,680 the observers and multi-dimensional is 1051 00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:43,359 just that other opinion that other point 1052 00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:44,320 of view 1053 00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:46,880 and just not hold people accountable but 1054 00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:48,880 just just ask some difficult questions 1055 00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:50,320 and let's hear the other side of the 1056 00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:51,520 arguments 1057 00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:53,280 um something i think we try to do in 1058 00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:54,560 this podcast 1059 00:36:58,870 --> 00:36:57,200 um peter talks about all the crafty 1060 00:37:00,870 --> 00:36:58,880 scene he talks about seven foot blue 1061 00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:00,880 liquid aliens being projected from blue 1062 00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:02,960 orbs he talks about being taken to 1063 00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:06,720 angelic realms realms with no stars 1064 00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:09,280 but there's zero evidence of any of this 1065 00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:10,640 other than 1066 00:37:16,870 --> 00:37:13,920 peter being gracious to tell a story 1067 00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:16,880 but there's nothing to back it up and 1068 00:37:19,990 --> 00:37:17,760 you know 1069 00:37:21,349 --> 00:37:20,000 mary rodwell is someone again who should 1070 00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:21,359 be coming on the podcast i've had to 1071 00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:24,400 reschedule due to me having covered um 1072 00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:26,640 but again i i i've got a lot of stuff 1073 00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:28,320 i'd love to talk to mary about she 1074 00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:29,760 shares her thoughts and feelings about 1075 00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:31,760 counseling experiences 1076 00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:34,079 talks about human consciousness people 1077 00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:36,079 at nikola tesla and others having these 1078 00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:37,359 downloads 1079 00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:38,240 but 1080 00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:41,200 again it's just all all seems to be that 1081 00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:42,400 everything is 1082 00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:44,160 definitely 100 1083 00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:46,720 alien experiences different realms 1084 00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:48,000 angelic 1085 00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:49,119 where 1086 00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:52,079 at what point uh is someone lying or 1087 00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:54,720 making stuff up or is someone suffering 1088 00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:56,320 some form of trauma 1089 00:37:59,109 --> 00:37:57,119 you know 1090 00:38:01,510 --> 00:37:59,119 where where is the due diligence and any 1091 00:38:03,670 --> 00:38:01,520 of that as you say what at what point do 1092 00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:03,680 you say this is genuine this isn't 1093 00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:05,920 because there are aspects of this whole 1094 00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:07,839 subject which can be damaging to the 1095 00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:10,079 credibility of it not that you can't 1096 00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:11,680 talk about this kind of stuff but i know 1097 00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:13,920 dan we have joked about this in the past 1098 00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:15,760 but when people talk about loving light 1099 00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:19,359 and starseeds and star beings and 1100 00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:20,720 it's something i really struggle with 1101 00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:22,880 personally well it's language that you 1102 00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:24,880 need to kind of be initiated in first 1103 00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:26,960 right before you you're comfortable with 1104 00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:28,480 it and 1105 00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:30,079 calling something a starseed you know if 1106 00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:33,119 you said to me oh you know dan you you 1107 00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:36,240 humanity comes from molecules that were 1108 00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:37,680 on a 1109 00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:39,760 meteor and it hit earth and we grew from 1110 00:38:43,990 --> 00:38:41,520 that and thus you're a seed from the 1111 00:38:45,910 --> 00:38:44,000 stars cool i get that context but just 1112 00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:45,920 kind of using the terms like starseed 1113 00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:47,200 and things like that 1114 00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:49,280 and and to just mean 1115 00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:50,640 you know we're almost 1116 00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:52,480 hybrids of these beings and it usually 1117 00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:54,480 goes into reptilians and kind of you 1118 00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:57,040 know the so-and-so from plate pleiades 1119 00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:58,000 um 1120 00:39:01,910 --> 00:39:00,079 can i just mention that yeah you 1121 00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:01,920 mentioned like so-and-so being from 1122 00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:04,320 pilates or orion beings 1123 00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:06,320 that's the name that we gave to these 1124 00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:09,359 star systems isn't it yes yeah so it's 1125 00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:11,760 just it's just fantastic that they also 1126 00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:15,119 use those same names um and and if you 1127 00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:17,119 look at those star citizen systems as 1128 00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:18,240 well i actually find it really 1129 00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:20,079 fascinating because 1130 00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:21,839 that's the shape we see from where we 1131 00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:22,480 are 1132 00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:24,240 they don't make that shape in the sky if 1133 00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:26,560 you flew there you would come across the 1134 00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:28,160 you know the bottom left foot of orion 1135 00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:29,680 first and then you'd see the rest of the 1136 00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:31,440 shape kind of distorted in front of you 1137 00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:32,400 because it just looks different from 1138 00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:34,720 where you are now absolutely like the 1139 00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:36,240 further you get into the milky way the 1140 00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:37,599 more different it looks and you have 1141 00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:39,760 that yeah that's it you're absolutely 1142 00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:41,200 spot on done with 1143 00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:43,200 the way that would look as well so and 1144 00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:44,640 that's not to downplay that and say 1145 00:39:48,630 --> 00:39:46,640 that's the reason it's not true but i 1146 00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:48,640 think there's a real lack of 1147 00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:51,119 of evidence that the multi-dimensional 1148 00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:54,000 for me is if you really do enjoy hearing 1149 00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:57,200 about um experiencers the the idea of 1150 00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:58,480 you know 1151 00:40:01,430 --> 00:39:59,599 dreams 1152 00:40:02,870 --> 00:40:01,440 being a huge aspect of this human 1153 00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:02,880 consciousness 1154 00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:04,960 and if you enjoy hearing about various 1155 00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:08,160 different realms angels angelic beings 1156 00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:10,400 then this is something i think you might 1157 00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:11,280 enjoy 1158 00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:14,000 um there's again the the idea of loving 1159 00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:16,480 light is talked about quite a bit and i 1160 00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:18,480 i mentioned you know in my notes then 1161 00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:20,560 what about abductions and people having 1162 00:40:24,309 --> 00:40:22,880 terrifying traumatic experiences because 1163 00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:24,319 this is one of those things like like 1164 00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:26,960 steven greer does quite often it totally 1165 00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:29,280 negates any negativity in this subject 1166 00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:31,920 which you have to you have to discuss 1167 00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:34,400 what if you don't want to be abducted 1168 00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:36,400 either physically or non-physically 1169 00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:38,720 whether in your dreams or not then that 1170 00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:41,200 can be a harrowing experience for people 1171 00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:43,280 and not everyone claims that any 1172 00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:45,680 abduction has been entirely positive and 1173 00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:48,079 i've had this overwhelming feeling of 1174 00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:50,240 calm wash over them there's plenty of 1175 00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:53,040 people who haven't had good experiences 1176 00:40:56,069 --> 00:40:54,640 you so you have to take that into the 1177 00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:56,079 conversation 1178 00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:57,440 and it doesn't do that in this 1179 00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:59,359 documentary either for me 1180 00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:01,040 no um 1181 00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:02,400 it made me think of 1182 00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:03,920 witness of another world i don't 1183 00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:05,200 remember that one that came out a year 1184 00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:07,040 or so back and that was a really 1185 00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:09,599 gorgeous documentary that 1186 00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:12,000 it was about an experience someone had 1187 00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:13,839 but it didn't focus entirely on the 1188 00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:16,000 experience it was all about how he 1189 00:41:19,349 --> 00:41:17,599 carried that forward in his life and how 1190 00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:19,359 it changed him and i thought that was 1191 00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:20,880 real interesting because not only does 1192 00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:22,800 it make it easier to relate to instead 1193 00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:25,280 of just seeing these you know hollow cg 1194 00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:27,040 recreations being asked to suspend your 1195 00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:29,040 disbelief um 1196 00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:31,200 you can actually see this this deep 1197 00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:33,760 heavy effect to whatever the event was 1198 00:41:37,589 --> 00:41:36,079 it had on this person and it leads them 1199 00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:37,599 to some real interesting places and 1200 00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:39,520 seeing them reflect 1201 00:41:43,030 --> 00:41:41,520 with a little bit of skepticism goes a 1202 00:41:45,829 --> 00:41:43,040 long way i thought 1203 00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:45,839 yeah and the i mean jason gleaves was 1204 00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:48,480 the third guest i had on the podcast and 1205 00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:50,319 he he's featured throughout which was 1206 00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:51,520 great to see 1207 00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:53,920 and jason is good with his analyzing the 1208 00:41:57,910 --> 00:41:55,520 footage and stuff but 1209 00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:57,920 there was one where 1210 00:42:02,710 --> 00:41:59,760 he he reviews a couple of bits of 1211 00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:02,720 footage and talks about it being 1212 00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:05,200 legitimate footage of an alien entity 1213 00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:07,839 the first was very spurious and it's 1214 00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:09,839 extremely poor detail that you can't 1215 00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:12,240 make out and the second 1216 00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:15,119 looks like a face but could be anything 1217 00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:17,119 you know is it is it paradolia or 1218 00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:18,720 whatever it is again yeah that's right 1219 00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:20,240 before you know just seeing shapes and 1220 00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:21,440 things yeah yeah 1221 00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:24,160 and for me it was like it could be but 1222 00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:26,480 it could be something else so 1223 00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:28,880 it just it it struggled for me to find 1224 00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:31,680 its place in in showing a balanced view 1225 00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:32,880 of the subject 1226 00:42:36,550 --> 00:42:34,640 the professor gary nolan dr colm 1227 00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:36,560 kelleher recently have talked about 1228 00:42:41,270 --> 00:42:39,200 people dying or being severely injured 1229 00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:41,280 getting rare cancers from contact with 1230 00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:44,000 some of these objects beings orbs none 1231 00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:45,040 of that is talked about in this 1232 00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:46,560 documentary 1233 00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:49,839 it's and it's very much for me uh 1234 00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:52,640 a slightly poorer version of what steven 1235 00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:54,800 grier produces 1236 00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:56,480 yeah sure i can see that 1237 00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:57,920 i can see 1238 00:43:01,750 --> 00:43:00,000 so again i'm i hate to sound like we're 1239 00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:01,760 just ragged on two documentaries but 1240 00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:03,599 people have asked us about both of them 1241 00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:05,200 for me 1242 00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:06,880 they're both if they're free and you're 1243 00:43:10,069 --> 00:43:08,240 interested in 1244 00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:10,079 and either of those can add directions 1245 00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:12,800 then okay yeah check them out but it's 1246 00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:14,720 not something i would be happy paying 1247 00:43:19,670 --> 00:43:17,839 for um and they both leave for me a lot 1248 00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:19,680 of questions that that would have made 1249 00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:21,760 them much more balanced documentaries 1250 00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:23,599 had those been explored and answered 1251 00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,880 yeah 1252 00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:26,400 you know like you said this is for 1253 00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:28,079 people who are into just listening to 1254 00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:32,160 experiences um but in a way i felt like 1255 00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:34,000 the the stories in the film are better 1256 00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:35,520 served by listening to interviews with 1257 00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:37,440 these people um 1258 00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:40,000 rather than being edited along uh a 1259 00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:41,040 narrative 1260 00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:42,640 so i probably recommend that people go 1261 00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:44,319 listen to interviews with uh you know 1262 00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:46,720 peter maxwell's lottery and mary rodwell 1263 00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:48,640 um and people like that to just get the 1264 00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:50,720 information from the source without any 1265 00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:52,880 any of the 1266 00:43:58,309 --> 00:43:56,000 the need to make it dramatic for a movie 1267 00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:58,319 absolutely well listen dan that is 1268 00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:00,480 pretty much as as done for this 1269 00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:02,640 breakdown and thank you for folks for 1270 00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:04,240 for checking us out 1271 00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:05,680 dan again what are the details of the 1272 00:44:10,030 --> 00:44:07,119 raffle for people who want to get 1273 00:44:13,589 --> 00:44:10,040 involved so you can find that at 1274 00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:13,599 go.rallyup.com forward slash truth 1275 00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:15,599 awesome and again folks thank you very 1276 00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:17,200 much for listening we are almost at the 1277 00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:19,359 year's end the next interview up like i 1278 00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:21,119 say is dr michael p masters really 1279 00:44:25,990 --> 00:44:23,440 interesting one check that one out next 1280 00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:26,000 week we have frank milburn will be the 1281 00:44:29,829 --> 00:44:28,240 guest on the podcast as well oh and 1282 00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:29,839 something i forgot to mention and we'll 1283 00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:32,319 just drop in at the end here um as of 1284 00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:34,160 now we won't be doing any more shows on 1285 00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:37,200 kg ra it's nothing 1286 00:44:41,109 --> 00:44:39,040 you know devious or anything on either 1287 00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:41,119 end it's just with the podcast with the 1288 00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:42,960 youtube channel we're putting a lot of 1289 00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:45,119 work and effort into that and we just 1290 00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:46,480 don't have the time in a minute to do 1291 00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:48,880 the extra show and everything else so at 1292 00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:51,119 kgra were really gracious and i'll let 1293 00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:52,640 bill over there know that we weren't 1294 00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:53,760 going to be doing that for the 1295 00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:56,240 foreseeable future anyway um 1296 00:44:58,950 --> 00:44:57,599 thanks for the opportunity it's been 1297 00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:58,960 wonderful being a part of that they've 1298 00:45:02,069 --> 00:45:01,040 got some great stuff on there um but 1299 00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:02,079 going forward we'll just be 1300 00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:04,319 concentrating on the the podcast the 1301 00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:06,480 audio and also the youtube channel 1302 00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:08,240 itself and getting the content out there 1303 00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:10,160 but there will still be those youtube 1304 00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:11,440 videos and hopefully we're going to do 1305 00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:14,000 one in the next week as well done yeah 1306 00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:17,040 yeah 100 uh with that kind of you know 1307 00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:19,760 being put to bed uh we'll kind of have a 1308 00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:21,680 regular live where people can ask us 1309 00:45:24,630 --> 00:45:23,280 questions and stuff and it'll just be a 1310 00:45:26,309 --> 00:45:24,640 bit of a different format to mix it up 1311 00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:26,319 from the interviews and break down and 1312 00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:28,800 you know uh quantum witch cafe and david 1313 00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:30,160 graham's pod 1314 00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:31,920 absolutely in the next couple of weeks 1315 00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:33,040 as we've got the holidays i hope 1316 00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:35,119 everyone has a great time um thanks for 1317 00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:36,400 checking out the podcast we're going to 1318 00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:38,319 have a year-end show i've not told dan 1319 00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:40,640 yet but on patreon people have already 1320 00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:42,160 been dropping over their highlights of 1321 00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:44,880 2021 very cool so that'll be available 1322 00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:46,480 for folks that might be a good one to do 1323 00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:48,319 on the youtube live yeah it might be one 1324 00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:49,920 that would release audio it'll be on 1325 00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:52,800 audio and youtube anyway and like i say 1326 00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:54,960 guest wise we are rearranging with diana 1327 00:45:59,910 --> 00:45:57,599 pasalka as well um that was one that was 1328 00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:59,920 arranged during covid it knocked me out 1329 00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:01,280 for a couple of weeks folks as you've 1330 00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:03,760 heard my scheduling and everything else 1331 00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:05,040 has been all over the place but i'm 1332 00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:06,720 getting kind of back into it as the year 1333 00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:09,119 finishes so thanks for everyone being so 1334 00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:11,200 patient in the meantime just to let 1335 00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:13,200 people know as well that uh andy has 1336 00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,800 actually gained superpowers he can now 1337 00:46:18,790 --> 00:46:16,800 read mines and he's currently recording 1338 00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:18,800 while stuck to the ceiling so that's an 1339 00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:20,560 interesting turn of events 1340 00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:22,880 i wish i absolutely wish but yes folks 1341 00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:24,240 listen thank you very much before 1342 00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:25,680 christmas dan and i will be back with 1343 00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:27,680 another show and you've got plenty of 1344 00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:30,000 amazing content still coming up as well 1345 00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:32,160 so speak to you soon 1346 00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:34,240 that is all for this week's show thank 1347 00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:36,240 you very much for listening please 1348 00:46:40,870 --> 00:46:38,400 remember to leave the podcast review on 1349 00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:40,880 your chosen platform you can like 1350 00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:43,200 retweet and subscribe that would all be 1351 00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:45,119 very much appreciated the shows are 1352 00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:47,280 being uploaded onto youtube as we speak 1353 00:46:51,270 --> 00:46:48,800 more and more you can sign up at 1354 00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:51,280 patreon.com forward slash that ufo 1355 00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:54,000 podcast to access shows ad free as well 1356 00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:56,240 please get in touch on twitter facebook 1357 00:47:02,230 --> 00:46:59,040 instagram that ufo podcast of course on 1358 00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:02,240 twitter it's at ufouapam 1359 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:04,400 and again folks as always keep looking 1360 00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:07,290 up you never know what you might see 1361 00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:24,390 like alice for the parliament the little 1362 00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:26,160 [\h__\h] hovered right inside of my window 1363 00:47:33,690 --> 00:47:27,839 when i shoved out the screen he made an 1364 00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:43,510 [Music] 1365 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:44,950 i can't imagine how it could have been 1366 00:47:50,450 --> 00:48:04,230 [Music] 1367 00:48:07,270 --> 00:48:05,589 there was something on my head and 1368 00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:07,280 everything was weird and everything was 1369 00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:09,040 red i helped out my boys they thought 1370 00:48:18,300 --> 00:48:10,400 this was nice they thought it was a 1371 00:48:18,310 --> 00:48:32,150 [Music] 1372 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:38,080 over there 1373 00:48:46,950 --> 00:48:42,630 [Music] 1374 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:52,490 consider your serious consider your lies 1375 00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:07,100 [Music] 1376 00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:14,880 it wasn't a tic tac and not quite a